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Postby John S » Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:49 pm

Your missing the point I was making the p

Its not the pros and cons which decide these things but how much those making the decision about planning applications value individual opinions.
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Postby Ship called Dignity » Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:05 am

John S wrote:Your missing the point I was making the p

Its not the pros and cons which decide these things but how much those making the decision about planning applications value individual opinions.


Sorry John, I should have pointed out I did get your point and agree - happens all the time with regards people making decisions, they can choose to listen or not but at this point I am just trying to form my own opinion.

I don't know enough about the whole issue but I am interested to learn. I suppose what I am saying is at the outset I was opposed to the idea when I read some stuff about it - mainly due to the location and wondered why there has to be another one in Kintyre - why not somewhere else for example etc? In addition I could not see the benefits of another wind farm other than small (but valuable) employment in the area. Perhaps a wind trust is another plus but only to a certain area (us Southerners don't get any of it 8)

So I'll remove the Pros and rephrase my question;

What are the benefits of having

1. environmentally sustainable energy
2. a more sustainable rural community (???)
3. economic benefits to those directly affected

Really just trying to get some debate on here again as it has been absolutely naff lately! 8)
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Postby John S » Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:27 am

the p wrote: Perhaps a wind trust is another plus but only to a certain area (us Southerners don't get any of it 8)


Well don't be so quick, I heard that the extension of the Tangy windfarm would be to the benefit of a local trust which would include CAMPBELTOWN. Maybe others will know more about this than me?

Anyway, rather than planning for meeting our energy demands from other sourses, a more potent measure might be to identify what each of us, as individuals, do to reduce our personal energy demands? - Lets take the responsability for climate change as individuals rather than asking politicians. Goodness knows they are challanged enough!
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Postby Sweltered » Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:29 am

Has there been any menton of wave power at all? I know theres a major initiative in Portugal at the moment, and some of the fabrication is being carried out in the Western Isles.
OOH did they knock down McCaigs folly.....
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Postby ionnsaigh » Sat Sep 30, 2006 7:57 am

the p wrote:
John S wrote:Your missing the point I was making the p

Its not the pros and cons which decide these things but how much those making the decision about planning applications value individual opinions.


Sorry John, I should have pointed out I did get your point and agree - happens all the time with regards people making decisions, they can choose to listen or not but at this point I am just trying to form my own opinion.

I don't know enough about the whole issue but I am interested to learn. I suppose what I am saying is at the outset I was opposed to the idea when I read some stuff about it - mainly due to the location and wondered why there has to be another one in Kintyre - why not somewhere else for example etc? In addition I could not see the benefits of another wind farm other than small (but valuable) employment in the area. Perhaps a wind trust is another plus but only to a certain area (us Southerners don't get any of it 8)

So I'll remove the Pros and rephrase my question;

What are the benefits of having

1. environmentally sustainable energy
2. a more sustainable rural community (???)
3. economic benefits to those directly affected

Really just trying to get some debate on here again as it has been absolutely naff lately! 8)


1. is a pro
2. a pro
3. pro
Your asking what is the benefit- of Three benefits. :D
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Postby Ship called Dignity » Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:13 am

ionnsaigh wrote:
the p wrote:So I'll remove the Pros and rephrase my question;

What are the benefits of having

1. a environmentally sustainable energy
2. a more sustainable rural community (???)
3. economic benefits to those directly affected

Really just trying to get some debate on here again as it has been absolutely naff lately! 8)


1. is a pro
2. a pro
3. pro
Your asking what is the benefit- of Three benefits. :D


:oops: :oops: true - oops!

Okay I'll try again why would building another wind farm in Kintyre create;

1. a environmentally sustainable energy
2. a more sustainable rural community (???)
3. economic benefits to those directly affected
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Postby Kintyre Lad » Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:23 pm

Think about it the p....

Who actually is organising the Support Largie Windfarm so I can sign this?
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Postby Ship called Dignity » Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:35 pm

Kintyre Lad wrote:Think about it the p....

Who actually is organising the Support Largie Windfarm so I can sign this?


Think about it? That is what I am trying to do? :evil:

As said before I am NOT opposed to the Wind Farm but just trying to understand I can support it...

Now think about that and tell me... :evil: :wink:
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Postby ionnsaigh » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:57 am

the p wrote:
Kintyre Lad wrote:Think about it the p....

Who actually is organising the Support Largie Windfarm so I can sign this?


Think about it? That is what I am trying to do? :evil:

As said before I am NOT opposed to the Wind Farm but just trying to understand I can support it...

Now think about that and tell me... :evil: :wink:


Not knowing a great deal of the (current) issue to me the answer lies simply. This is a bread and butter issue.
Kintyre requires its own Energy needs.
Kintyre requires Economic regeneration.
The Workers of Kintyre and their Families require Work.
Look at the organisations opposed to the wind farm, take the Ramblers Association for example- how many are unemployed Workers do they have- within their ranks- not many I would guess. As much as I love birds and the beauty of Kintyre these considerations fall by the wayside when pittied against the welfare of the People.
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Postby Mod 5 » Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:55 pm

have split this thread to try and keep it to the pros & cons of Largie Windfarm......
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Postby Ship called Dignity » Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:14 pm

Cheers Tom - excellent posting and finally some reasons why (posted on here) wind farms should be supported. Too often or not it is assumed we have an understanding of issues which surround us when we clearly do not. When it came to this issue I did not and therefore struggled to sign something I knew little about just because I was asked. As mentioned before I did not oppose the proposals I just didnt know ebough about them. With the help of your post things are much clearer now.

To a certain degree I was just trying to instigate debate on here as it has been a bit dreich on here lately! :wink:
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Postby Bobbie En Tejas » Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:35 pm

the p wrote:To a certain degree I was just trying to instigate debate on here as it has been a bit dreich on here lately! :wink:


Sorry, no can do. We are all getting in touch with our altruistic, loving and compassionate selves, getting along in love and harmony with each other, peace love, man...

oh wait, sorry, that was BS for another thread. :mrgreen: ONWARD WITH THE DEBATES!! (Tools and hatchets optional) :wink: :lol:
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Postby Ship called Dignity » Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:15 pm

Interesting article in the Herald today about the delay in allowing Wind Farm sites.

http://www.sundayherald.com/58315
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