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Hi Gizmo,
I havenAngus Keith McKinven't come across this name in my files Angus Keith McKinven, but I'll keep him in mind as I am researching. The government of Canada does have military records at the Canadain Archives site and it's free. Good Luck.
Joy

Was a very long shot but worth a try.

Hi Gizmo,
Sorry, so far I have no one by that name.
Joy

Hi Gizmo

Private Angus Keith McKinven was my father's uncle, the sister of my grandmother Mary McPhail McKinven. He was wounded in the Battle of the Somme in 1916 and died a short time later in hospital in Rouen, France. He is buried in the military section of the cemetery at St. Sever, France, which is at Rouen. We have visited his grave and have photos of his tombstone there.

Veterans Affairs Canada has a website with a section titled Canada Remembers and there is a Virtual War Memorial with information on every Canadian soldier killed during WW I. We have posted Angus's obituary, photo and a photo of his tombstone on this site. Here is a link that will take you directly to the correct site.

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/collectio ... ail/171674

We have some other information also. What is your connection to Angus Keith McKinven?

Glen Pinchin

Oops. Angus McKinven was the BROTHER of my grandmother.

Hi Pinchin,
I dont have any connecton to the McKinvens, I have been collecting details on the men mentioned on the War Memorial for a while now,I had already found the details you posted on the Canada Remembers site.
You may not know he is also commemorated on the Grammar School Memorial and the Highland Parish Church Memorial, there is a photo of him in the Courier dated 28/10/1916.
I tried posting a link to it but it is too big and I dont know how to resize it, if you PM me your e-mail address I will send it to you.
If you have any other details or photos I would be interested in seeing them.
JIM

Hi all ! Found a few details but you probably already have them !

Lawrence McKinven
Birth 1803 in Scotland... In the 1841 census he's living in Main Street Campbeltown and is a fisherman.
Death before 1865 in Scotland
Marriage to Mary McMillan 19 Jan 1830: Age: 27 Killean and Kilchenzie, Argyll, Scotland

Mary McMillan
Birth about 1802 in Scotland
Death ?
Mary’s father Donald McMillan and mother Ann McGill.
Children:
Lawrence McKinven
Andrew McKinven 1831 – 1898
Catherine McKinven 1836 –
Donald McKinven 1838 –
Agnes McKinven 1840 –
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I hope the following does not lead to confusion, it's sent simply for you to “pick the bones” so-to-speak because of the names McKinven and Sharp. Don’t forget that the following could be wrong !

James McKinven
Birth 14 Jan 1878 in Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland
Death 5 Nov 1915
Wife Janet Sharp… no details :

UK, Royal Navy and Royal Marine War Graves Roll, 1914-1919 about James McKinven
Name: James McKinven
Rank: Smn
Birth Date: 14 Jan 1878
Birth Place: Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland
Branch of Service: Royal Naval Reserve
Cause of Death: Killed or died as a direct result of enemy action
Official Number Port Division: 5031.B. (Po)
Death Date: 5 Nov 1915
Ship or Unit: HMS Tara
Location of Grave: Not recorded
Name and Address of Cemetery: Body Not Recovered For Burial
Relatives Notified and Address: Widow: Mrs McKinven 23, Argyll Street, Campbeltown, NB

Son of James: Lawrence Mckinven
Birth 2 aug 1874 in Campbeltown, Argyllshire
Death 4 jul 1950 in Campbeltown, Argyllshire
Mary McCulloch 1879 – 1914

Dau of Lawrence: Jeame Mckinven
Birth abt 1900 in Campbeltown, Argyllshire (1901 census living at 36 Main Street)
Death abt 1949 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Husbands of Jeame:

Samuel Fleming 1883 – 1919
Dau : Mary Fleming 1919 – 1988
Birth about 1919 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Death about 1987/1988 in England

James Dalgleish 1895 – 1972
Children:
• William Dalgleish 1922 – 1999
• Laura Dalgleish 1924 – 1978
• John Dalgleish 1926 – 1926
• Jean Dalgleish 1927 – 2006
• Ronald Dalgleish 1933 – 2005

Hi Ian,
Mary McMillan was my great grand aunt.She was born in Killean & Kilchenzie in 1802 and Married Laurence/Lawrence McKinven in 1803.They had 6 children that i know of,
Catharine McKinven b. 1835
Donald McKinven b. 1838
Agnes McKinven [1] b. 1833 [died before 1841]
Andrew McKinven b. 1831
Agnes McKinven [2] b.1841
Henry McKinven b. 1830
I have not found a Laurence McKinven born to them,do you have any details on him or any of the other children.
Here`s hoping,
Joe McMillan,
South Australia [formerly Dumbarton]

Hi Joe !

• Lawrence McKinven (No details)
• Andrew McKinven 1831 – 1898
Andrew’s first wife: Jean McKinven 1842 –
First child : Andrew McKinven 1876 –
Andrew’s second wife : Margaret McConnachie 1846 – 1880
Additional children :
Andrew McKinven 1860 –
Flora McKinven 1866 – 1951
Catherine McKinven 1870 –
Margaret McKinven 1872 – 1947
Andrewana McKinven 1877 –
• Catherine McKinven 1836 – (No details)
• Donald McKinven 1838 – (No details)
• Agnes McKinven 1840 – (No details)
Unknown wife:
Child: Margaret McKinven 1875 –

Andrew McKinven:





Flora McKinven
Birth 6 Oct 1866 in Campbeltown, Argyl, Scotland
Death 10 Nov 1951 in Allanton, Cambusnethan, Scotland
Flora’s hubby : Malcolm Newlands 1863 – 1950
Flora’s children :
Private
Margaret McConachie Newlands 1890 – 1965
Malcolm Newlands 1890 –
Andi Newlands 1895 –
James Newlands 1898 –
Flora Newlands 1900 –
Jenny Newlands 1901 –
George Newlands 1904 –
Catherine Newlands 1906 –
Archibald McConachy Newlands 1911 – 1988

Update Donald:

Donald McKinven
Birth 1839
Death 11 SEP 1887... Pneumonia
Occupation: Maltster & fisherman.
Unknown wife:
Children:
• John McKinven
• James Sharp McKinven 1870 – 1942
• Janet Beith McKinven 1872 –

Hi again Ian,
Thank`s for your reply to my posting on the McKinven family.I have quite a bit of info on some of them and very little on others so your list of children is a great help to me.
Regarding your previous posting ,the son of James --Lawrence McKinven, was not his son.The Lawrence McKinven born on 2 Aug. 1874 was the child of Donald McKinven & Janet Sharp who were married at Campbeltown in 1862 and had the following children
Daniel McKinven b. 1862
John McKinven b. 1864
Lawrence McKinven [1] b. 1867 [died 1868]
James Sharp McKinven b. 1870
Lawrence McKinven [2] b. 1874
Janet Beith McKinven [1]b. 1872 [died 1873]
Janet Beith McKinven [2]b.1877
I hope this is of interest to you and if you can provide any other info on them i would love to have it.
Cheers,
Joe McMillan

JOEMAC wrote:Hi again Ian,
Cheers,
Joe McMillan

Hi Joe ! I'm quite busy for the time being but I'll get back to you on that. And thanks for the information. I'll transfer your remarks to the source concerned..., they'll surely be interested ! Thanks !

Hi Joe..., I sent your modifications to the person ceoncerned. I'll keep you updated when she replies.
In the meantime, as there are errors in that tree it would be confusing if I added to the list above.

Have a nice week end..., Iain.

Hi again Iain,
Thank`s for keeping me up to date on this topic.I look forward to seeing any other info on the McKinven`s that may come to light.
As i said,i have a lot of info on my line of the McKinven tree but there are a lot of gaps to be filled so any assistance is greatfully received.
Have a great weekend too.
Cheers,
Joe McMillan,
South Australia.

Hi Pinchin,

Angus Keith McKinven's father, Robert, was my gt gt grandmother's brother. My gt gt granny was Flora McKinven, born in Tayinloan in 1856 to Donald McKinven and Elizabeth Stewart. She married my gt gt grandfather, Neil Scally in 1873.

I have in the past done a little research on Angus Keith McKinven(I thought he was very interesting).If you go on the Canadian records site www.collectionscanada.gc.ca and look at the military records(WW1-CEF) you will see his attestation papers(sign-up papers). His service no. for reference purposes was 14758. He is also honoured on the University of Glasgow WW1 Roll of Honour with a link to a short bio.

www.universitystory.gla.ac/ww1-biography/?id=4337

Perhaps you can help me with a question? Angus' mother was Elizabeth Keith. Angus's uncle, James McKinven married a Christine Keith. Do you know if these two ladies were related, as that is my suspicion? I noticed that Angus's cousin, another Angus also served in a Canadian regiment and was killed the same year in Germany.

Karen.