McLean/Maclean from Ireland

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McLean/Maclean from Ireland

Postby calmac » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:49 am

I am researching a McLean family who came to Kintyre from Ireland about 1838.
Duncan (born 1785) was a carter and his wife Elizabeth (Betsy) McLachlan born 1801.
Dates are approximate.

In the 1841 census they lived at Fleming's land (see notes elsewhere on this forum). Their children were

Andrew born 1823
Catharine 1829
Hugh 1833
Elizabeth 1835 all in Ireland

Martha born 1838
Christian born 1840 both Argyllshire

Son Charles '20' was an agricultural labourer at Darloclan, home of Archibald Stewart, farmer

In later life, Charles and Hugh became fishermen. I have some information on Charles and his descendants, but very little on other family members.

It would be very useful to know which part of Ireland they came from.
Can anyone add anything?
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Re: McLean/Maclean from Ireland

Postby calmac » Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:06 pm

some census information from my pencil notes:

1841 Darlochan, Home of Archibald and Mary Stewart.
Charles McLean born Campbeltown, labourer age 20

1851 LongRow, East Side

1861 Loarn Street
Marion 70 (possibly McConachy??)
Flora 37
Charles 30 born Ireland
John 9
Janet 7
Duncan 5
Charles 3
Marion 5 months

1871 Bolgam Street

Charles McLean 46
Flora Duncan 48 (Duncan is a variant of MacConachy?)
John 20
Duncan 15
Marrion 10
Flora 8
Archibald 6
Grace McConachy 33


1881 Lochend, McDonald's

Chas 50 fisherman
Flora 45
Archibald 17
Flora 19
Flora 7

1891 3 Wide close

Charles 70 labourer
Flora 73
Flora Miller 9
Malcolm Duffy 5

1901
Charles Poor House speaks English and Gaelic


Duncan Mclean does not sound like an Irish name???
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Re: McLean/Maclean from Ireland

Postby calmac » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:48 pm

1861 censns Argylle Street, Campbeltown

Hugh McLean head 28 sailor born Argyllshire
Jean wife 29

Elizabeth 8
Robert 4
Catherine 2
Hugh 6m
Married to Jean Porter, died january 7th 1891 age 57
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Re: McLean/Maclean from Ireland

Postby calmac » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:20 pm

There is a puzzle here, as I have been unable to find any baptism or birth records for the Maclean children, including those born in Kintyre.

The only baptism I have found is of a Hugh Mclean at Glenravel RC in 1833; that might be a different family, since if it is so,
two generations later they married into a Church of Ireland family (Stewart) who had also moved to Kintyre.

It could equally be that the baptisms in Ireland are in registers which are not online or no longer exist.

In an age when everyone was baptised does anyone know where the Church of Ireland equivalent was in the 1830s?
Episcopal not Presbyterian?
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Re: McLean/Maclean from Ireland

Postby lindaf » Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:03 pm

Might it be that the name Duncan given along with your Flora's name is either an added error or was actually her given middle name from a surname Duncan in her family? I would think it unlikely that Duncan has been given as a variation on McConachy.

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Re: McLean/Maclean from Ireland

Postby calmac » Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:37 pm

You may be right, but have a look at the Gaelic form of Macconachy.

Looks a lot like Mac Duncan, and I am sure I have read somewhere that it is a variant.

From 1901 census information I would doubt that my ancestors spoke much English
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Re: McLean/Maclean from Ireland

Postby calmac » Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:46 pm

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Re: McLean/Maclean from Ireland

Postby lindaf » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:16 am

I'm sure all the children of Charles and Flora would have spoken English. I see that your family lived in Lorne Street in 1861. They would have attended the school in that same road. I'm sure it had been built by that time. Look it up and see what has happened to it more recently. Its been converted into a superb YHA Bunkhouse! I stayed in it on one of my visits and found it quite emotional as my McNaughton family had also lived in Lorne street in 1841. The Lorne Street houses no longer exist.
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