General Election

[ionnsaigh]

At the end of the day, when all is said and done, girl will vote for Labour, and Bill will vote Tory. Both British parties who will continue to treat Scotland as a rural backwater. I don't have the vote ( not that I'm complaining ) however given the choice, I would have to put my weight behind the Nationalist party. Then perhaps we can move forward to a fairer brighter, and independent Scotland.

Vote SNP

[EMDEE]

ARGYLL & BUTE

James McGrigor (C)
Carolyn Manson (Lab)
+Alan Reid (LD)
Isobel Strong (SNP)
Deirdre Henderson (SSP)

39.60% boundary change
2001 notional: LD maj 3,832 (9.16%) - Turnout 41,814 (60.10%)
LD 13,724 (32.82%); C 9,892 (23.66%); Lab 9,493 (22.70%); SNP 7,295
(17.45%); SSP 1,410 (3.37%)

[ionnsaigh]

I would vote for Deirdre ( better than nothing ) in an independent Scotland.

[EMDEE]

That was actually the info from the last general election.

[ionnsaigh]

That was actually the info from the last general election.

It makes little difference, overall labour will win Scotland and Wales. The Conservatives may win in England and the occupied North of Eire. Yet democracy is diminished through this act of union ( Acts are made ) by that I mean, not occurring naturally. Go ahead vote for your favorite football team ( futile ) it's what happens on England's green pitch that matters. By supporting the Nationalist cause, I fulfill that need to identify to my own people. As a confirmed socialist, I would say to the SSP that the first step is freedom from England and the Great British Empire. Our second step is establishing a socialist driven society.
In Solidarity,
Mick.

[£3.73]

I'm sorry, but are you people having a laugh ?

Independent Scotland ? Do you even watch world events ?
Independent from what ?
Westminster?

In case anyone hasn't noticed we're controlled from Brussels & Strasbourg now.

Do none of you really get it ?
It doesn't matter who you vote for.

The SNP are as establishment as any other party.

Once again, it does not matter who you vote for, you will get exactly the same series of events bar a few cosmetic differences.

Argyll SHOULD be fielding someone from Argyll, who will speak for the electorate of Argyll, and fight to get the best deal for Argyll. As should every other constituency ! That is the only way to take politics back. (and that will never happen), why, because it would be a lot harder for the real powers that be to rope in 500 independents.Also each candidate should only be allowed a single term. As is, we have this arse backwards system where outsiders are telling us what's good for Argyll !

Labour, the Tories, SNP, Lib/Dems ... none of them have any other interest than getting elected, and they're all controlled by the same interests.

Independence ... ffs !

[Ranald]

Argyll SHOULD be fielding someone from Argyll, who will speak for the electorate of Argyll, and fight to get the best deal for Argyll. As should every other constituency ! That is the only way to take politics back. (and that will never happen), why, because it would be a lot harder for the real powers that be to rope in 500 independents.Also each candidate should only be allowed a single term. As is, we have this arse backwards system where outsiders are telling us what's good for Argyll !

You don't suppose that's more likely to happen, and have an even greater effect if it does, when they're representing us at a parliament in Edinburgh rather than London?

[ionnsaigh]

Independent Scotland ? Do you even watch world events ?
Independent from what ?
Westminster?

Well that would be a positive start. It's logical to suggest that Scotland's interest would be served better from Edinburgh than that other place. Independent to make our own economic priorities, independent to make decisions regarding wars in foreign lands, personally I've had my fill of Labour Prime Ministers and Tories, using our children as cannon fodder.
I'm sick to death of the blatant sight of deprived people here in Scotland, it goes against any moral grain that we Scots may salvage, through the act of independence.

Do none of you really get it ?
It doesn't matter who you vote for.

The SNP are as establishment as any other party.

Once again, it does not matter who you vote for, you will get exactly the same series of events bar a few cosmetic differences.

Yes your correct the SNP lost all creditability, when they made that fatal jump from a broad based political movement, to a political party. However what they offer is that first step, as far as I'm concerned they should disband as soon as independence is achieved. They are their to be used, afteral they all use us.

Argyll SHOULD be fielding someone from Argyll, who will speak for the electorate of Argyll, and fight to get the best deal for Argyll. As should every other constituency ! That is the only way to take politics back. (and that will never happen), why, because it would be a lot harder for the real powers that be to rope in 500 independents.Also each candidate should only be allowed a single term. As is, we have this arse backwards system where outsiders are telling us what's good for Argyll !

Absolutely correct it will never happen, unless their is some catalyst event. Scotland voting through the SNP would be such an event, it would constitute a constitutional crisis in Britain. I would go further, the 500 hundred should be picked randomly by computer, they should willingly serve for one term ( people should be given the choice ) these candidates should and would be directly accountable to community councils. In fact they would not be able to open their mouths without the consent of their constituents.

Dependence ...ffs !

[Hume]

ionns, surely the best route to your independent socialist republic, is first to achieve independence from the rest of the UK then via a referendum delivered by a socially democratic Scottish Government, rather than voting SSP?

Edit: Sorry, I see you are suggesting that!

Similarly, to the Euro sceptics, Labour or the Tories will not pull Britain out of the EU and UKIP are hardly going to form the UK Government but at least an independent Scottish Government is likely to offer a referendum on Europe.

[£3.73]

Argyll SHOULD be fielding someone from Argyll, who will speak for the electorate of Argyll, and fight to get the best deal for Argyll. As should every other constituency ! That is the only way to take politics back. (and that will never happen), why, because it would be a lot harder for the real powers that be to rope in 500 independents.Also each candidate should only be allowed a single term. As is, we have this arse backwards system where outsiders are telling us what's good for Argyll !

You don't suppose that's more likely to happen, and have an even greater effect if it does, when they're representing us at a parliament in Edinburgh rather than London?

The parliament in Edinburgh is basically another level of taxation !
It has to be paid for.

Westminster didn't wreck fishing. Westminster didn't wreck farming.
Westminster was merely compliant in stuff like that.

We are now in the incredulous situation of being Governed by the EU, Westminster, Edinburgh & Local Government !
That's 4 layers of taxation right away !

[£3.73]

I might add that if party politics were ever disbanded, and each constituency elected their best candidate to sit for a single term .... and the sole seat of Government was Edinburgh ... and we had referendums on important matters that affect Scotland ie Europe .... then I would come out of retirement & vote.

It's hardly likely though is it ?

[Sweltered]

Voting only encourages them, and then you end up regretting voting for them. As I predicted over here, Obama has rolled up his trouser legs and we can all see his clay feet. I've often said that the fact that someone wants to be a politician should prevent them from ever holding public office. I see the tories are going down the Obama "hope and change" route. Well we got change here and the country will be paying for it for a thousand years.

Be careful what you wish for.....You might just get it.

[£3.73]

Voting only encourages them, and then you end up regretting voting for them.

If voting changes nothing, then perhaps noone should vote !

The lowest turnout in political history would give any Government absolutely no credibility.

Very Ghandi, very simple.

[bassett]

Now I might be wrong,but I don't think any of the members who have posted in this thread are multi-millionaires.So I don't see why yous'e are getting so worked up about the coming general election.
To the common man it doesn't matter tuppence who is in power.We are at the bottom of the pile,and as such each and every government simply use us for taxation.
Vote dinnae make me laugh.Vote for who?Theyr'e all as bad as each other,and that includes SNP.
As for that daftie frae Glesga wi' his workers socialist utopia dream.......dream on as you sit in your multistorey box in the sky.
Vote..aye I'll vote for the first man to stand up and vow to
stop immigration,
send ever illegal immigrant back
bring all our troops home
keep our armed forces as a defensive not offensive force
stop all benefit payments


Just had a thought....I think I'll stand.I predict a landslide victory.

[numberplease]

Basset, would you like to come and stand for election in Boston? I`d vote for you, because at the moment there`s nobody I`d feel happy voting for. They say if you don`t vote you can`t moan about who gets in, but why vote just for the sake of it? They`re all just out to feather their own nests.