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Re: Baroness Thatcher

Postby Mr Plod » Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:10 am

Well to be honest Bill, most of these kind of "shock horror wow" websites are deliberately provocative, and their authors are usually bereft of common sense. But people just can't resist having a peek.

I'm not very keen on extremist politicians either left or right. And in my opinion Margaret Thatcher was pretty far to the right on the political spectrum.

In my view Norman Wisdom would have been a more suitable candidate for a state funeral.

Another one who had an all expenses paid trip to the other side was Winston Churchill, who for all his faults, and they were legion, was a man who had a long history of service to his nation, both militarily, and politically, and therefore his State Funeral was pretty much a foregone conclusion.

The Royal Family are another shower of eccentric inbred malcontents who fully expect a full State Funeral because it's the absolute minimum standard of send off they've come to expect.

I think state funerals should only be reserved for those who have, during their lifetime, captured the hearts, minds and spirit of the nation. But it does'nt matter, because governments dish out honours such as life peerages to the highest bidders, some of whom do not even live here or pay UK taxes on their obscene overseas riches. So in that respect giving Baroness Thatcher a state funeral is just more of the same old same old.

So many people in my very large extended family had their jobs pulled out from under them or were sacked from well paid professional jobs and forced to re-apply for the same jobs at vastly reduced hourly rates and shocking working conditions, that it makes me sick to my back teeth that she is to get a State Funeral.

I don't care if she was a prime minister. Her attitude was pretty much along the Marie Antoinette lines "Let them eat cake". She came across as insensitive, intolerant and rude.

We should tax the anticipated £7 billion annual bonuses the financial services sector fatcats are set to recieve this year at 99 pence in the pound and use some of the £6.98 billion pounds raised to fund a national referendum on the issue. The £6.97 billion in change left over can be spent on good causes such as "Help for Heroes" and Erskine Hospital and all the other charities providing help and support for our injured servicemen and women and their families, any one of whom would be more deserving of a state funeral given that they put themselves in harms way to preserve our freedoms.

Anyhoo it's a moot point because I saw Baroness Thatcher on the telly tonight so I'm assuming she's made a full recovery. :D
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Re: Baroness Thatcher

Postby Mr Plod » Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:36 am

Also Bill, the term "Democratically elected" is anything but under our present electoral system. It might be considered democratic if it was proportional representation, and not the "first past the post" system.

Literally millions of people in Scotland were, and still are, utterly disenfranchised under the current electoral system that gave us Thatcher, Blair, slack-jaw Brown and now the "Lib-Cons". The Liberals fooled us all with their "A vote for us is a vote for electoral reform" Hahahahahaha yeah right. See how many votes they get next time round. I reckon Tommy Sheridan and his Stalinist sycophants could get more votes than the Liberals after their shock transition to "The Dark Side"

The politicians' mantra is " you can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones to concentrate on ". :shock:
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Re: Baroness Thatcher

Postby ionnsaigh » Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:07 am

Tommy Sheridan and his Stalinist sycophants - oh that's funny - just goes to show how utter contempt, for another point of view, can twist fact. Mr Gob was never a Stalinist, a careerist yes, an opportunist most definitely... A Stalinist never. I wonder how you describe followers of Christ or Hitler - other than Christian or Fascist ?
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Re: Baroness Thatcher

Postby Govangirl » Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:50 pm

Mr Plod wrote:Well to be honest . . .

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Hear, hear!!!!


Mr Plod wrote:Also Bill, the term "Democratically elected" is anything but . . .

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And hear, hear, HEAR again!!!!!!
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Re: Baroness Thatcher

Postby bill » Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:05 pm

Govangirl wrote:
Hear, hear!!!!


And hear, hear, HEAR again!!!!!!


Reminded me of the MPs in The Commons when someone is trying to make them self heard,but all you hear is hear.. hear.. meh.. meh.. booooo.. boooo..bah ..bah.. hear.. hear.. order.. order.. :roll: :lol:

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Re: Baroness Thatcher

Postby Govangirl » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:25 pm

Well, as this current Government has so few women in it, I guess I'll be easily heard!

And not because I'm a loudmouth! :wink:
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Re: Baroness Thatcher

Postby ionnsaigh » Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:00 am

Govangirl wrote:Well, as this current Government has so few women in it


There is more Women MP's now, than there ever was.... You see from were I'm sitting , it matters little as to the gender of the politician.. What is much more important is class... Of course historically, females have had a long painful journey to be recognised and excepted in the commons... granted. However socialism should render these secondary contradictions to the back burner - given the choice.. I would rather have one working class male MP, than two Maggie Thatcher's.
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Re: Baroness Thatcher

Postby gizmo » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:26 pm

There is only one Maggie Thatcher.. God bless her. :lol:

Cue Bill stage right.
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Re: Baroness Thatcher

Postby bill » Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:53 pm

Twenty years ago today,probably one of the most shameful days in the history of the Tory party.
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Re: Baroness Thatcher

Postby ionnsaigh » Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:24 pm

bill wrote:Twenty years ago today,probably one of the most shameful days in the history of the Tory party.


What you would expect, from a pack of dogs. They never had a mandate, to govern Scotland.
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Re: Baroness Thatcher

Postby bill » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:50 pm

Political journalist and author, David Torrance, is on the hunt.... for the greatest speeches delivered in Scotland or by Scots throughout the world.

Among the contenders are speeches by the late Jimmy Reid, Margaret Thatcher, J. M. Barrie and James Maxton. Torrance is particularly keen to locate more examples of oratory by non-politicians.

Suggestions should go to davidtorrance@hotmail.com
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Re: Baroness Thatcher

Postby Mr Plod » Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:24 pm

Is she deid yet?
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Re: Baroness Thatcher

Postby ionnsaigh » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:53 am

bill wrote:Political journalist and author, David Torrance, is on the hunt.... for the greatest speeches delivered in Scotland or by Scots throughout the world.

Among the contenders are speeches by the late Jimmy Reid, Margaret Thatcher, J. M. Barrie and James Maxton. Torrance is particularly keen to locate more examples of oratory by non-politicians.

Suggestions should go to davidtorrance@hotmail.com


Thanks for the link bill, I have contacted ( lets wait to see the reply )
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Re: Baroness Thatcher

Postby Sheik Yir Erse » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:23 pm

Are you thinking of nominating me Ionns? :lol:
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Re: Baroness Thatcher

Postby ionnsaigh » Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:50 am

Sheik Yir Erse wrote:Are you thinking of nominating me Ionns? :lol:


Well lets put it this way, you wouldn't be last.... mind you.. you would not be first either. :wink:
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