Genius gone to seed

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Postby EMDEE » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:57 am

Sheik Yir Erse wrote:
Sweltered wrote:Would a genius have pissed his life away like he has?


George Best? Jim Baxter? :lol:

However, would probably agree with you questioning him being labelled a 'genius'. No doubt there'll soon be a Channel 4 show called "The 100 Greatest Songwriters" - I wouldn't be expecting too many mentions for Mr Macgowan :wink:


This rant is not particularly aimed at Shane McGowan, but is just a general rant:

The word "genius" is one that is used much too freely nowadays, and seems, in many cases, to ignore the idea that such a person of notable ability, should also be a role model. To me, someone who achieves "high profile" through some ability or other, and then becomes known as a "hellraiser" is nothing but an idiot. I think that any contribution that people like this make to our culture is negated by their behaviour. They are taking the piss out of their gullible audience.

It seems to me that many people nowadays who are described as geniuses have become better known for their dissipatory lifestyles than for any alleged talent that they possess. Don't forget that many people now achieve fame through marketing and hype rather than under their own steam.

Many people of ability are held back by their own innate humility rather than being promoted by their own arrogance.

Rant over for the evening. :evil:
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Re: Genius gone to seed

Postby bill » Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:52 pm

The Pogues with Shane McGowan received an ecstatic welcome from a sold out crowd at the Oxegen Festival Sunday night.


The 13 song set was ...

'Streams Of Whiskey'
'If I Should Fall From Grace With God'
'The Broad Majestic Shannon'
'A Pair Of Brown Eyes'
'Tuesday Morning'
'A Rainy Night In Soho'
'The Body Of An American'
'The Sunny Side Of The Street'
'Dirty Old Town'
'Bottle Of Smoke'
'The Sick Bed Of Cuchulainn'
'Sally MacLennane'
'Fiesta'
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Re: Genius gone to seed

Postby Sheik Yir Erse » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:56 pm

Bill - I've just spoken to a friend's daughter, who was just back from T in the Park, and she said they were the best band she saw this year.
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Re: Genius gone to seed

Postby bill » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:41 am

Sheik Yir Erse wrote:Bill - I've just spoken to a friend's daughter, who was just back from T in the Park, and she said they were the best band she saw this year.


That's like music to my ears Sheik :D
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Re: Genius gone to seed

Postby bill » Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:21 pm

"The Ballad of Ronnie Drew" a charity record by the great and good of Irish music reached No.1 earlier this year.

Who is up there in his rightfull place at the forefront?None other than Living Legend Shane MacGowan. 8)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cdTnL5Cxu ... re=related

Here's to you Ronnie Drew,and if you do'nt know who he is then your musical knowledge is sadly lacking :roll:
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Re: Genius gone to seed

Postby Govangirl » Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:40 pm

There's life in the old dog yet! :D
Blow away the dreams that tear you apart
Blow away the dreams that break your heart
Blow away the lies that leave you nothing but lost and brokenhearted
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Re: Genius gone to seed

Postby bill » Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:08 pm

The Great Hunger: The Songs of Shane MacGowan, BBC documentary from 1997(pity the lip sync. is out)



http://bestdocumentaries.blogspot.com/2 ... gowan.html
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Re: Genius gone to seed

Postby bill » Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:39 pm

Just found out that Shane was diagnosed as having Hepatitis, and he has to stay off the drink.

Somehow I think that's not going to happen .
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Re: Genius gone to seed

Postby bill » Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:44 pm

Govangirl wrote:There's life in the old dog yet! :D


Sad news,Ronnie passed away yesterday :(


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Re: Genius gone to seed

Postby bill » Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:52 pm

Shane and Ronnie Drew(minus the famous beard and silver hair)

Is that tea your drinking Shane ?


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Re: Genius gone to seed

Postby bill » Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:32 pm

Christy Moore tibute to Shane MacGowan..........N O,he hasn't died :roll:




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Re: Genius gone to seed

Postby History » Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:15 pm

He's just a singer who is a drug addict and an alcoholic. His ilk come and go in all the decades.
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Re: Genius gone to seed

Postby bill » Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:56 pm

Obviously not to everybody's liking,which of course is a good thing,otherwise it would be a boring world if we all liked the same thing.
Shane has been around making music since 1978,starting with "The Erect Nipples/Nips",The Pogues,and The Popes.He has also been involved in collaborations with too many to mention,including charity recordings.

After every one of us who contribute to The Kintyre Forum are long dead and forgotten Shane will be remembered not least for his Christmas classic"The Fairytale of New York",which he co-wrote with Jem Finer.

All in all Shane has had,and is still having,a successful career spanning 32 years and counting.He has led his live his way,maybe not to everybody's idea of the way it should be.

He also of course gives some people the opportunity to be holier than thou with their comments,as if he would give a damn.

Here's to you Shane,you do it your way.............................

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